Curse

Mork from Ork · Nov 09, 2007, 02:00 PM // 14:00

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Originally Posted by crazy diamond

I like to think of the BMP as my actual purchase and all the character slots to be free. You must be a glass is half empty kinda guy.

And here we see the disaster that is ANet marketing. They kept emphasizing this was just a nice little bonus if you bought something in the online store you would normally want anyway.

The truth is, many wound up buying 30.00 of stuff they did not want and could not use in order to get the pack. It's refreshing to see someone regard that 30.00 purchase to be the bonus they got with the BMP - most are going to feel cheated if every one else gets it for 5 bucks.

I did not buy because I did not like how they handled the whole promotion to begin with but I will ....

/sign

but only with the provision that it cost $30.00 and is sold in places other than the online store (which was the major problem in the first place)

(As a side note - I strongly suspect they have always had every intention of offering this separately after the promotion. This was a try-out of the online store and any content from this point on will be standalone purchasable units sold through the online store only. I believe this was their way of transitioning from box copies to strictly electronic ones. So for those of you who are upset that they might offer it by itself - get over it. It's gonna happen. And for those of us who did not buy because we do not like the way the online store works - tough luck - I bet that's the only way they distribute any content between now and GW2)

Dev121 · Nov 09, 2007, 05:31 PM // 17:31

/Signed

If you already got it dont be selfish and try to prevent others from it. Also to everyone moaning about GW:EN, you didnt have to buy it so grow up.

If they released it I'd probably buy it because it wouldnt be a issue but buying it online is so it would be better. I doubt it will happen but you can hope I guess...

Dev121 · Nov 09, 2007, 05:34 PM // 17:34

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Originally Posted by Drop of Fear

i feel the need to state it again...

FOR FREEE???? the price payed for BMP has been 8euro and 1 boxed version i DONT HAVE (and many ppl like me). many ppl bought slots they had no need or use for PAYING ONLY TO HAVE THE BMP.

it's pretty easy to understand...

You were not forced to buy it so stop whining, its really pathetic. Buying stuff you dont need for something else you dont need, smart thinking.

Str0b0 · Nov 09, 2007, 05:35 PM // 17:35

/not signed

Sorry I don't see the point in allowing for shiftless people with no plastic. This is an obvious marketing ploy just think about it. If A Net sells in a brick and mortar store they pay for the CD manufacturing and the packaging and the shipping. All of that comes out of their profit. If they sell in the online store they have only the overhead of actually making the code to consider so yeah they are going to give people incentives to buy from the online store and I don't think that those incentives should be available to just everyone otherwise it defeats the point of it being an incentive or reward.

KiyaKoreena · Nov 09, 2007, 06:27 PM // 18:27

/notsigned

It was a bonus for buying through the online store. I dont expect a tshirt/poster/whatnot to get shipped to me if some brick store offered one with purchase and I went elsewhere.

Though it might be kind of nice if the contests in the future offer a key for it as a prize option. If there was a DA key offered for a contest prize I would bet quite a few people would try harder with their entries.

Sinnocent · Nov 09, 2007, 07:09 PM // 19:09

/notsigned

And I DON'T have it, or GW:EN.

I saw the promotion, I knew it existed, it was hard not to see it (but then again some players don't even read the login announcements), I chose not to take part in it knowing full well I'd be left out on the bmp. Did I have the money? Sure. But I had other things I needed to spend my money on.

If it's decided later on that the promotion will run again, perhaps I'll take part then. If the bmp is sold in stores, I'll give it the same consideration. If the bmp is gone for good, so be it. Guild Wars games are a luxury for me. I have and will only make the purchase when I can afford it without crossing my budget lines and saftey nets. I can't play the stupid card and pretend I didn't know any better about the promotion, or that I should blame Anet for making priority out of my personal funds.

A limited time bonus promotion is exactly what it says. I'll live with it, or in this case, without it.

Loviatar · Nov 09, 2007, 08:31 PM // 20:31

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Originally Posted by Jongo River

Frankly, I'm astonished at all the snivelling against the idea that this pack might be made available any other way. My recollection of the several long threads on this subject, was that many players were not happy with the offer and many also believed that it would become available some other way.

as to being available some other way that was your own wishful thinking

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Since ANet never once explicitly stated that there would be no other methods of obtaining the pack, I think those people have every right to anticipate another chance to acquire it.

here is what it officially says and it looks pretty clear to me that this is indeed a limited offer take it or lose it

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Spend a total of $29 USD (€26/£17) or more in the Guild Wars In-Game Store or purchase and activate any product worth $29 USD (€26/£17) through the PlayNC online store, between Noon Pacific Time July 5, 2007 and 11:59 PM Pacific Time October 31, 2007.
You can spend the required amount all at once, or over time; your purchases will be tracked and once you meet the requirement, you will qualify to receive the Bonus Mission Pack!
The Details
The Bonus Mission Pack will release in November. This promotion is non-transferable and is limited to one per account. The Bonus Pack will only be available to the exact account that fulfills this promotion in the in-game store or the exact account on which a qualifying Guild Wars product is activated that has been purchased in the PlayNC store.

KamikazeChicken · Nov 09, 2007, 08:42 PM // 20:42

The BMP was offered for an extended period of time with full disclosure that it was ONLY available for that limited period. People either qualified or didn't, and it's time people take responsibility for their own actions, instead of blaming Anet for every last thing.

However, I don't see why Anet did the promotion how they did when the entire point of offering it as incentive was to create revenue. The made quite a bit more off people buying 3 character slots than those buying EotN, but I'm sure Anet knows what it's doing.

Jongo River · Nov 09, 2007, 10:32 PM // 22:32

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Originally Posted by Loviatar

as to being available some other way that was your own wishful thinking

Not mine, I was making a generalised comment on what appeared to be believed by quite a few posters on this subject in previous discussions, and was never "corrected" by ANet in the firm way I'd expect, if there truly was no possibility of the pack appearing in the store.

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Originally Posted by Loviatar

it looks pretty clear to me that this is indeed a limited offer take it or lose it

Sorry Loviatar, but you do understand that this debate is not about what the offer was, but whether or not the product can be made available in any other way, don't you? None of your quotes, even with the bold, measure up to a statement that the product will never be made available in any other way.

Just curious, but when Disney re-release all their junk in the run-up to Christmas with "only for a limited time" stickers on the covers - do you actually believe them?

Str0b0 · Nov 10, 2007, 05:42 AM // 05:42

Look people,do you cry when the McRib goes away? Do you demand that the manager make you one even though it's been gone for a month? No of course not. It's a limited time offer. That means that once that time expires it's done. You missed out. No pork goodness for you. Do you demand that the collector's edition exclusives be made available for your purchase? Well maybe you do but I hate to say it it won't happen. you missed out on the window to acquire that goodness. Now this offer was not only blasted on the log in screen for weeks but posted on the website and the official wiki. You would have to be playing this game in braille to miss it. It clearly stated that the BMP would be available to anyone who spent X amount of dollars between date A and date B. Do you see the finality of that time line? It says the promotion starts here and it ends here. You missed out. Too bad. You had every opportunity that the rest of us did.

pumpkin pie · Nov 10, 2007, 06:06 AM // 06:06

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Originally Posted by KamikazeChicken

The BMP was offered for an extended period of time with full disclosure that it was ONLY available for that limited period. People either qualified or didn't, and it's time people take responsibility for their own actions, instead of blaming Anet for every last thing.

However, I don't see why Anet did the promotion how they did when the entire point of offering it as incentive was to create revenue. The made quite a bit more off people buying 3 character slots than those buying EotN, but I'm sure Anet knows what it's doing.

it says it will be available for FREE during that limited period. I don't think it says its EXCLUSIVE, get it now or never.

Sneaky Mcsneaksneak · Nov 10, 2007, 06:16 AM // 06:16

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The Bonus Pack will only be available to the exact account that fulfills this promotion

Seems clear enough to me. Go ahead and cry about it if you want to, but I think 4 months and enough promotion went into it that people should stop whining.
Gaile was already very clear on this. It will not happen.
/not signed.

pumpkin pie · Nov 10, 2007, 09:58 AM // 09:58

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Originally Posted by Sneaky Mcsneaksneak

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The Bonus Pack will only be available to the exact account that fulfills this promotion

Seems clear enough to me. Go ahead and cry about it if you want to, but I think 4 months and enough promotion went into it that people should stop whining.
Gaile was already very clear on this. It will not happen.
/not signed.

that phrase means the promotion is not transferable maybe to other account? have you think about it. if it mean after the promotion you won't get the pack, it would probably says something along the line of: "The Bonus Pack Offers will not be available after the promotions period."

What is will be. if not, well I have mine mission pack, both accounts :P but I think other player who wishes to get it later can get it with a reasonable price.

PS: limited edition and limited time offers are 2 different type of promotion.... one is exclusive the other is non-exclusive.

plus the bonus mission pack, don't necessary have to be called a bonus mission pack after this, it can be called an upgrade. *throw hints at Anet*

CHunterX · Nov 10, 2007, 11:40 AM // 11:40

If they do end up offering it in the in-game store, I would like a Eye of the North box sent to my home, free of charge and shipping. The only reason I used that damn store and missed out on having a box for my shelf was for the BMP.

jezz · Nov 10, 2007, 01:49 PM // 13:49

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Originally Posted by DeVaNeY121

/Signed

If you already got it dont be selfish and try to prevent others from it.

/not signed
i dont think anyone is preventing anybody from accessing BMP...(July 5, 2007 and October 31, 2007)...if you didnt get it in that time frame..whos problem is it...not those that have qualified or Anets.

crazy diamond · Nov 10, 2007, 02:02 PM // 14:02

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Originally Posted by Mork from Ork

And here we see the disaster that is ANet marketing. They kept emphasizing this was just a nice little bonus if you bought something in the online store you would normally want anyway.

You take me more seriously than you should.

The Abbott · Nov 10, 2007, 03:07 PM // 15:07

/signed, there are a lot of selfish people here

Drop of Fear · Nov 10, 2007, 03:11 PM // 15:11

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Originally Posted by The Abbott

/signed, there are a lot of selfish people here

and a lot of full time whiners.

The Abbott · Nov 10, 2007, 03:13 PM // 15:13

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Originally Posted by Drop of Fear

and a lot of full time whiners.

and one or two morons

Dante the Warlord · Nov 10, 2007, 03:42 PM // 15:42

I bought GW:EN from the online store and didn't really see the point of the box lol. Who knows whats going to happen, but i don't see how people can just happen to afford the BMP after they were given months of time to buy it.

Plus, most of the people who are /signing it didn't want to buy it or have bought it already.